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Rodrick Jefferson, Donald Kelly, The Sales Evangelist

TSE 1110: What Companies Get Wrong When It Come To Sales Enablement

Rodrick Jefferson, Donald Kelly, The Sales Evangelist

Many people get sales enablement wrong because they have different concepts and ideas about what it actually is.

Roderick Jefferson began his sales career as a BDR, then an AEE, and finally moved into sales management. He discovered that he enjoyed sales more than he enjoyed closing deals. So he stepped into sales training.

Now, through his company Roderick Jefferson and Associates, he breaks the complexity of sales into practical ideas through scalable and repeatable practices.

Sales enablement mistakes

Sales enablement helps develop the right conversations the right way with the right tools. Ultimately, it seeks to decrease time to ramp or increase productivity and revenue.

Many companies make mistakes implementing their sales enablement.

  1. They fail to establish consistency and parameters.
  2. Many wait too long to hire sales enablement consultants.
  3. They assume they need a consultant or a resource without realizing they need both. One can help you lay the groundwork that you can hand off to another.

Many companies aren’t really sure what they need. They know what isn’t working and they treat enablement like IT. But those who do sales enablement aren’t the fixers of broken things. They aren’t sales scribes or sales support. They must be sales partners.

Training vs. enablement

A difference exists between training and enablement. Roderick believes that training applies to animals while enablement applies to humans.

Enablement is woven into the fabric of the company. It literally has to be one of the top five initiatives of the overall success of the company. It also must have specific time-bound and measurable deliverables, metrics, and KPIs.

Measurements

Some of the sales enablement measurements have changed. We used to talk about butts in seats, headcount, and NPS scores, but those things don’t carry water.

Sales enablement now focuses on different questions.

  • What’s the completion percentage of certification or accreditation?
  • What’s the average deal size?
  • Collateral use infrequency?
  • How much new pipeline is being created?
  • What’s the number of closed deals?
  • What’s the product mix?
  • What’s the quota attainment percentage?
  • What’s the time to revenue?
  • What’s the win rate?

Many of the old measurements aren’t definitions of success and they won’t help move the needle forward for sales.

Biggest mistake

Companies aren’t tying their goals, their sales processes, or their sales methodology to figure out where they fit into their buyer’s journey. They are trying to make their buyer fit into their processes, methodologies, sales stages, and CRM.

They must step back and reverse engineer their process and document what the buyer’s journey looks like. They must also figure out where to fit in multiple touch points in the buyer’s journey.

Sales enablement must be in place before you need it. By the time you need it, it’s already too late. If, for example, you’re planning to hire more people over the next year, you must have the content ready for them. You must have a process for onboarding.

Without these processes in place, you’ve essentially planned to fail rather than ensuring success.

Rethink ICP

Rethink the ideal customer profile. Start thinking instead about the ideal employee profile. From an enablement perspective, you start to get a feel for new hires and who is going to be a rock star. Instead of doing that after the hire, Roderick focused on working with HR resources around talent acquisition.

Consider what a rock star looks like especially in the context of where the company is going. Then take that job description to HR and explain what you’re hiring toward.

Sometimes sellers do well by accident because the prospect happened to need their product or service. In that case, they become simply order-takers.

When we fail to measure, plan, or structure our efforts, we don’t optimize. Imagine if every organization operated that way. It’s the detriment of the sales industry.

Supply chain ensures that you hit your markers and that sales leaders don’t move the goalposts. If you’re in the red zone about to score, you don’t want anyone to move the goal post.

Resource vs. consultant

Many companies don’t want to pay for consultants but they want help connecting the dots. It’s important to use resources and consultants because what one lacks, the other brings.

Roderick’s team brings templates to their clients so they don’t have to recreate the wheel. The process includes four stages.

  1. Infrastructure build and augmentation.
  2. Established sales enablement team.
  3. Sales leadership and coaching.
  4. Sales-focused metrics.

Hope

Instead of hoping that marketing does its job and that the customer buys, institute a clear process instead. Remove hope at every stage and rely on the process that focuses on your buyer’s journey.

Enablement is an ongoing conference rather than a single event.

“Sales Enablement” episode resources

You can connect with Roderick on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook, or you can email him directly with questions at roderickjefferson.com.

Connect with me at donald@thesalesevangelist.com.

Try the first module of the TSE Certified Sales Training Program for free.

This episode is brought to you by the TSE Certified Sales Training Program. I developed this training course because I struggled early on as a seller. Once I had the chance to go through my own training, I noticed a hockey-stick improvement in my performance.

TSE Certified Sales Training Program can help you out of your slump.

If you gave a lot of great presentations and did a lot of hard work, only to watch your prospects choose to work with your competitors, we can help you fix that. The new semester of TSE Certified Sales Training Program begins in April and it would be an absolute honor to have you join us.

Tools for sellers

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Formlabs, 3-D Printing, Donald Kelly, Videos in Email

TSE 1070: TSE Certified Sales Training Program – “Shorten The Sales Process With Video”

Formlabs, 3-D Printing, Donald Kelly, Videos in Email

 

Even if you’ve been selling for years, it’s possible that you’ve overlooked some ideas that will help you perform better, like working to shorten the sales process with video. 

Today we’ll discuss some ideas that will help you shorten your sales cycle and some ways to use video to accomplish it. I’ll also share a real-life example from one of my clients to demonstrate how effective it can be.

Power of video

Video is so simple and so powerful that it’s hard to imagine that some people aren’t taking advantage of it. We’ve talked about it on The Sales Evangelist for months because it’s a powerful tool that’s available to every seller.

I recently read a study that showed that 7 out of 10 B2B buyers watch a video somewhere in their buying process. So 70 percent of buyers are watching videos that are usually generated by the marketing department.

But why aren’t we in sales using it as well? It’s simpler for the buyer to consume, and it isn’t difficult for us to make them.

Prevalence of video

Videos are everywhere and we engage with them daily on Netflix, YouTube, and other places. Stories are part of our lives.

We can use them in our prospecting, in our closings, and to build value throughout the entire sales process. Use video to follow up with a client or share a testimonial. Create a video overview of your product.

Creative uses

Chaz works in the 3D printing industry, which for some of us is still rather unfamiliar. Because his product is cutting-edge, it can be difficult for him to explain what he’s doing to his customers.

The emails can get long and confusing. His customers have lots of technical questions. Chaz realized that it would be very time-consuming to answer all of those questions each time they arise. When he tried to get his customers to hop on a call so he could answer the questions, they often went dark on him.

He decided to use video to answer questions for his customers. It shortens the process because it’s quicker than email, and it helps him build trust with his customers.

Chaz said that he can shorten the sales process with video by up to a week.

If you could shave time off of each of your deals, how much more could you process? How many more clients could you obtain? Could you close more deals or earn more commission?

Problem-solving

Imagine your current customers running into trouble with the product you sold them. Instead of asking them to ship it back to you so you can troubleshoot the problem, why not use video to help them identify the glitch.

You can walk them through the process and provide guidance that will help them improve the outcome the next time.

Chaz uses the video to carry the customer through the process and it freed up more time in his day because he was able to help his customer quickly and efficiently so he could move on to other things.

Video tools

We’ve told you about a number of different video tools like BombBomb, Loom, Wistia, and Soapbox. There’s another called Vineyard, and probably many more that I haven’t named.

Video humanizes you for your customer, and research has proven that people do business with those that they know, like, and trust. When your customer can see and hear you, you’ll be able to build trust much more quickly in addition to helping your customer.

You can use video in your prospecting by following up with your prospects. Try using it in your outreach process to see what kind of results you get. We’re testing it ourselves and seeing amazing results.

“Shorten The Sales Process With Video” episode resources

Chaz is part of our TSE Certified Sales Training Program beta group, which wraps up in a couple of weeks. You can connect with him on LinkedIn, and you can watch the videos I mentioned earlier in the podcast here and here.

This episode is brought to you by the TSE Certified Sales Training Program. I developed this training course because I struggled early on as a seller. Once I had the chance to go through my own training, I noticed a hockey-stick improvement in my performance.

TSE Certified Sales Training Program can help you out of your slump.

If you gave a lot of great presentations and did a lot of hard work, only to watch your prospects choose to work with your competitors, we can help you fix that. The new semester of TSE Certified Sales Training Program begins in April and it would be an absolute honor to have you join us.

This episode is also brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. It’s super easy, it’s helpful, and I recommend that you try it out. You’ll receive real-time alerts anyone opens an email or clicks a link.

Mailtag.io allows you to see around the corners. You can see when people open your email, or when they click on the link you sent. Mailtag.io will give you half-off your subscription for life when you use the Promo Code: Donald at check out.

I hope you enjoyed the show today as much as I did. If so, please consider leaving us a rating on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you consume this content and share it with someone else who might benefit from our message. It helps others find our message and improves our visibility.

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Steven Griffith, Time Management, Donald Kelly

TSE 1069: Sales From The Street – “Your Time Management Ideas Are Wrong”

Steven Griffith, Time Management, Donald KellyMany sellers elongate the sales process without even realizing it, and Steven Griffith is here to talk about how to take control of your time and to explain that your time management ideas are wrong.

Steven is a performance coach and the author of the book, The Time Cleanse: A Proven System to Eliminate Wasted Time, Realize Your Full Potential, and Reinvest In What Matters Most. He explains how to close the performance gap and get hours back in your day.

Performance research

Steven discovered about five years ago that all of his performance clients were pointing to the same roadblock to their success: they didn’t have enough time. He even discovered that he was feeling the same way.

Technology has created more distractions and it prompts us to multi-task all the time. Our lives are moving at an incredible pace and we’re all over-stimulated by toxins that steal and hijack our time.

Old time management strategies worked when the phone was connected to the wall by a cord. We live by the notion that time is scarce so we’re working to cram as much into each hour as we can.

“If time allows”

Most people have an adverse relationship to time, so Steven teaches his clients to establish a positive relationship with time so that time becomes abundant. It’s a matter of viewing time as an ally rather than a foe, and working with it instead of fighting against it.

Consider the phrase “if time allows.” Steven routinely asks people whose time they are referring to when they use this phrase.

We’ve conditioned ourselves to believe that time has the power to allow us to accomplish things. We buy into the idea that time is an outside thing that we’re working against when, in fact, we are time.

Compressing the sales cycle

Steven talks about compressing a sales cycle to fit one year’s worth of sales into one month.

He tells the story of a real estate professional who sells luxury real estate in L.A. He had health issues in the third quarter and he was really underwater.

They worked together to do a time cleanse that would help him compress his time.

Steven said we all have a built-in belief system about how long a sale takes. We’re conditioned by our industries to believe in ideas like slow seasons and high seasons.

Our mental framework keeps us in that mindset, so we get stuck. We might go up or down by 10 percent but we’ll always come back to our conditioned thermostat.

Steven asked the agent if it was possible to complete a year’s worth of sales in 10 months’ time. Without worrying about how to do it, he simply wanted to know if it could be done.

Could it be done in 8 months? Or 6?

Steven worked to break apart his self-limiting beliefs about how long the sales cycle takes. By the time they got down to 8 weeks, he admitted that he didn’t know how he would do it.

They started building a new framework in which it was possible to do a year’s worth of sales production in 8 weeks.

Mandatory activities

They started by identifying the activities that the agent absolutely had to do. Steven calls these ROT activities or high return-on-time activities.

His biggest business-generating sales activities were his 10×10, (10 contacts by 10 a.m.) and researching the market for pre-qualified buyers.

His time cleanse involved identifying different categories like technology, people, places, and others and categorizing their time. Once they had written everything down, they considered whether each activity was contributing to or contaminating his time.

By the end of the activity, they reclaimed 25 hours a week, 8 of which was the coffee shop. They identified his time there as a contaminant because his visits often turned into two-hour stays. Instead, they sent his assistant to get his coffee each day.

The time cleanse gives you the opportunity to evaluate whether you’re doing the right things at the right times.

He redistributed his time and assigned his non-revenue-generating activities to his assistant as well.

Timefulness

Next, Steven showed his client how to set his day up to perform. He calls the concept timefulness, which is an advancement of mindfulness.

It’s being present in the moment so that we stop multitasking. We maintain a single focus which can 2 or 3x our results on its own.

The client put everything on his calendar, and he created a reset strategy. He set an alarm on his phone to go off every hour, and when it did, he would check to make sure that he was being mindful. If he wasn’t following the plan at that point, the alarm was his cue to return to it.

Sales increased

After about two or three weeks, he couldn’t believe how quickly the sales started coming. Like many people, he said, “I can’t believe this is happening so fast.” Steven cautions people to avoid that mindset because that doubt will keep things from happening quickly.

The client got laser-focused on his activities that generated revenue and he developed a relationship with time that supported those activities. He didn’t feel like he was fighting the clock anymore.

Be aware as a seller that if you’re stressed out, people will sense it and they likely won’t want to be around you.

At the end of 8 weeks, the client had done the most he had ever done in a quarter, and he went on to hit his all-time career record that year.

Believe

We must overcome what Steven calls our “always way of being,” which is our belief that certain activities take a certain amount of time. We’ve been conditioned to believe that work must be hard and that we must grind to achieve the things we want.

Although it’s true that you must have time in order to conduct sales, it’s possible for sales to happen instantly. Begin by asking yourself how you can compress time. If you don’t ask the question, you’ll never get the answer.

Don’t use the phrase time management. We don’t manage our family members, but rather we want to be connected to them and work in unison with them. The same is true of time.

How to start

If you find yourself wanting to try Steven’s concepts, begin by shattering the neurological connections in your mind that say this isn’t possible. Then, do your own cleanse. Determine what is contaminating your time. Anything that is holding you back from accelerating your goals and dreams is a contaminant.

Write down every single interaction and ask yourself whether your activities are contributing.

It could be Facebook, negative people, or any other thing that takes up your time.

Most people get back a minimum of 10 hours, but most get back 20 or more.

Many people resist the idea of compressing time because they use time as an excuse for not doing, being, and having. They frame themselves as victims of time. #CompressTime

If we say things like “Time doesn’t allow,” it lets us off the hook because we aren’t in charge. Instead, go on a time-excuse diet where you stop using time as a justification for not accomplishing things.

High-performance hours

As an entrepreneur and sales professional, the word no is as powerful as the word yes. Realize what you’re saying yes to, what you’re saying no to, and where your high-performance hours are.

Steven dedicates an entire section of the book to setting up their day to perform. In fact, many people are doing the right activities at the wrong time. We must determine when we have our best energy and then cluster those similar activities together. Our brains work more efficiently and we’ll get better results.

If you are time, and you’re 100 percent accountable and responsible for it without letting anything steal it, you take 100 percent control of your life and the results you get.

“Your Time Management Ideas Are Wrong” episode resources

If you’d like to connect with Steven, go to stevengriffith.com/salesevangelist for a free download of his top 10 performance tips to help you perform better with time. You can also pre-order a copy of his book, The Time Cleanse: A Proven System to Eliminate Wasted Time, Realize Your Full Potential, and Reinvest In What Matters Most. When you do, you’ll get free access to his master class that walks you step-by-step through the cleanse process.

You’ve heard us talk about the TSE Certified Sales Training Program, and we’re offering the first module free as a gift to you. Preview it. Check it out. If it makes sense for you to join, you can be part of our upcoming semester in April.

You can take it on your own or as part of the semester group. The program includes 65 videos altogether, and we just completed a beta group that helped us improve the program and maximize the information in it.

If you and your team are interested in learning more, we’d love to have you join us. Call (561)578-1729 to speak directly to me or one of our team members about the program.

This episode is also brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. You’ll receive real-time alerts anyone opens an email or clicks a link.

I hope you enjoyed the show today as much as I did. If so, please consider leaving us a rating on Apple Podcast, Google Podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you consume this content and share it with someone else who might benefit from our message. It helps others find our message and improves our visibility.

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Dr. Zvi Guterman, Sales Presentation, Donald Kelly, Giving Prospects Hands-On Control During Presentations and Leave Behind

TSE 1021: The Value of Giving Prospects Hands-on Control During Presentations and Leave-Behind

What is the value of giving prospects hands-on control during presentations and leave behinds?

Zvi Guterman, founder and CEO of CloudShare, is here today to tell us. CloudShare is a cloud company providing IT labs as a service mainly for IT training, IT sales enablement, and sandboxing, all in the cloud.

Like most entrepreneurs, Zvi got the idea for CloudShare when faced with a problem that needed a solution. In previous positions, there was always a point in the sales process when Zvi needed to build a demo or training talk.

When he realized how much time and work he was spending to build that infrastructure, as opposed to actually doing the demo and closing the deal, he knew there had to be a better way.

He looked but couldn’t find a service to create labs for him, so he decided to create that service.

Ten years and $30 million later, Zvi has seen a lot.

Hands-on control during presentations

Zvi learned from working with his customers and users that, once a prospect is given a hands-on experience, the level of commitment from those prospects increases.

It is no longer some vague idea that you are selling but rather a tangible product.

When the clients understand how the software works, for example, it is easier for them to imagine using it. They are more committed and less worried because their questions are answered. It also allows sales to collaborate with the prospects on how best to utilize the product.

A hands-on experience allows sales to move control of the demonstration to the prospect. It increases the prospect’s understanding of the product and allows them the opportunity to ask questions they may not even know they had.

Onboarding then becomes super enjoyable.

Begin by answering simple questions and explaining terminology. Then, proceed together to determine other areas to test, what type of specific functionality to add, or which performance issues need to be addressed. It also enables sales to personalize a timeline and success criteria for each prospect.

Other benefits of the hands-on approach 

Client engagement increases retention. The hands-on process increases usage and reduces the risk of the prospects buying but never deploying the product simply because they don’t have the time to install or set it up.

Cases will still arise where the product is not a good match for your prospect. But looking at the big picture, you want to see the No’s. Hands-on presentations shorten the time spent on irrelevant leads because the prospects will see right away whether the product is a match for their needs.

Most times, salespeople focus on leads or clients that are not going to progress. Engaging the customer with hands-on opportunities saves times and energy for everyone.

Zvi insists that the demonstration parameters be the same parameters the prospects can expect when the product is deployed to their data centers. They do not optimize or otherwise tweak the demonstration. This provides true value to the customers.

It also allows everyone the opportunity to enjoy the move toward deployment. The transition is smoother and the actual deployment is faster.

The duality of the hands-on process

The prospects are happy with the duality of the hands-on process. On one hand, they have control of the environment. No one will interfere or touch their data.

At the same time, sales is available to answer any questions and to collaborate.

An in-house test lab is probably the most common scenario in many organizations but scheduling use of the lab is both cumbersome and expensive.

CloudShare simplifies and reduces that cost by reducing the amount of lab time.  Hands-on demonstrations are more efficient, more powerful, and less expensive.

Providing hands-on demonstrations and a trial in the cloud also allows for more and more advanced scenarios. Zvi sees people utilizing all the available tools together and becoming more efficient.

People are now using the data available in CloudShare to calculate the probability of engagement. They can also determine where to concentrate their efforts and to learn about new directions to take.

It allows people to collaborate and get the best results.

For example, if a sales rep on the east coast notices better results from a demo being used on the west coast, he can quickly learn more about it and how best to apply it. With CloudShare, team members can share improvements implement them on a global scale.

Organizations become more efficient as a result.

“Giving Prospects Hands-on Control during Presentations and Leave-Behinds” episode resources

The best way to reach Zvi is via email at Zvi@Cloudshare.com.

This episode is brought to you in part by prospect.io, a powerful sales automation platform that allows you to build highly personalized, cold email campaigns. To learn more, go to prospect.io/tse. It will help you with your outbound to expand your outreach. It allows you to set it and forget it. Your prospecting will never, ever be the same.

Previously known as TSE Hustler’s League, our TSE Certified Sales Program offers modules that you can engage on your own schedule as well as opportunities to engage with other sellers in other industries.

This episode is brought to you in part by mailtag.io, a Chrome browser extension for Gmail that allows you to track and schedule your emails. It’s super easy, it’s helpful, and I recommend that you try it out.

You’ll receive real-time alerts anyone opens an email or clicks a link.

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Melinda Chen, Donald Kelly, The Sales Evangelist Podcast

TSE 846: How to Connect With Big Prospects Who Are Barely Online or on Social Media

Melinda Chen, Donald Kelly, The Sales Evangelist Podcast

Big clients can be great for companies who don’t have the resources to constantly pursue small clients. They can help you reach sales goals and they provide repeatable business. But how do you connect with big prospects who are barely online or on social media?

Today on The Sales Evangelist, we’ll talk to Melinda Chen, the founder of Women Making Big Sales, about how to streamline processes and make connections with large companies.

1. Operate with laser focus

Social selling is pretty straightforward, and in the past, it meant creating an opt-in, which meant hiring a writer and a designer. It also required time to establish a social presence and build an email list.

While it’s still true that it takes time to build relationships with industry, by focusing on exactly those organizations you want to target, you’ll achieve results more quickly, and your results will be more specific to your goals.

Begin by going to your LinkedIn page and doing an advanced search for a relevant keyword. Specify the industries you want to include in your search, and realize that if you’re including more than three, you likely need to narrow your efforts.

Ideally, you’ll be able to stay within two industries and still generate enough results to begin making connections.

Look for second- and third-degree connections that you can nurture to become first-level connections. The more existing connections you have within an industry, the shorter your sales cycle will be.

Once you determine who you’d like to reach, the next step is to figure out how to reach them.

2. Create a relationship map

After you’ve identified the big clients you’d like to work with, you’ll need to determine how you’ll connect with them.

Relationship maps help you find existing connections that can connect you with the people you’re trying to reach.

Consider the following three groups:

  • Nomads move around a lot, so they have vast experience in different organizations. They also have a lot of insights to share.
  • Superconnectors are people who have access to a lot of people, and they willingly give introductions once you’ve established trust with them.
  • Hubs represent the places where your target clients will likely be.

These groups will help you streamline your sales cycle and prevent you from building your prospect list completely from scratch.

3. Focus on the power of 2’s

If you’re trying to sell a product to the VP of HR, it’s very likely that many other sales professionals are doing the same. If you create a second connection within the same organization, you’ll create a synergy that didn’t exist before.

Imagine the decision-maker in a prospective company hears two different people in his organization mention you as a great person to work with. It creates a power shift so that you’re no longer a salesperson asking for business; instead, you’re a sales professional that he feels compelled to work with.

Sometimes, a sense of competition between colleagues can work in your favor.

“Connect With Big Prospects” resources

You can connect with Melinda and find even more of her insights and motivations at womenmakingbigsales.com and on her Facebook page of the same name.

Our friends at Wiley have provided a free excerpt of the book Stop Selling & Start Leading. Based on research and interviews with buyers, the book provides a blueprint sales professionals. Read an excerpt of the book here.

Once you’ve applied the concepts you heard here today, message me or email me and let me know what your results were.

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