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Cody Lister, Blogging, Content Marketing, The Sales Evangelist

TSE 336: Selling Online Is Easier Than You Think

Cody Lister, Blogging, Content Marketing, The Sales EvangelistIf you think guest blogging has nothing to do with helping you grow your sales, well, don’t overlook it. Today, we have Cody Lister on the show as he shares a whole ton of blogging and content promotion techniques and strategies you can implement to help you grow your business or increase your sales specifically when you’re selling online.

Cody Lister runs a pay-per-click management agency and he also runs his own blog and networks with influencers while getting his guest posts published by top blogs.

Here are the highlights of my conversation with Cody:

Does pay-per-click still exist?

  • More companies are actually getting on it everyday.
  • An effective way to drive leads for your business as long as you know your target audience well
  • Make sure you’re targeting is on point to reach the right people and not waste ad spent.

How to utilize blogging to grow your business:

  1. Set up a foundation for your blog with pillar content or post.

Content or posts should be between 3,000 and 10,000 words long each that revolve around your target audience’s desires, fears, and what keeps them up at night.

  1. Make sure you have a unique position in the market.

Pick one niche that you’re going to focus on. Instead of just sales, make it sales to a specific type of customer within a certain niche.

  1. Start guest blogging.

Posting on other people’s blogs as a guest allows you to build back links and some traffic to your blog.

  1. Continue blogging and promote your content heavily.

Perform content pre-outreach by reaching out to influencers and other bloggers that share similar content as yours. Reach out to them via email. Search through BuzzSumo for similar posts and get Twitter shares and the email addresses of these people. Reach out to them to let them know and give a heads up that you’re about to publish a specific post about a topic they liked in the past. Scrape the commenters of different blog posts that relate to your topic. Get their email addresses and reach out to them as a content pre-outreach to give them a heads up of your upcoming post.

  1. Form a content strategy and build relationships with other bloggers.

Have pillar content in the middle and splinter off pieces of that content or talk in more depth of specific topics that relate to that content so it becomes a spider web.

  1. Seed your content with influencers on referral networks like or GrowthHackers.

Once you’ve teamed up with bloggers, you can use one-click email opt-ins to get them to give you more subscribers. Through these tools, you get bloggers to email their list about you or about a link to something that you’re sharing with them. Once they click that link, you automatically get their email addresses.

  1. Build up your email base and funnel subscribers through an email automation sequence.

This allows you to nurture subscribers up to a certain pitch at the end.

  1. Advertise.

You can go on Facebook but if you don’t have experience, don’t just wing it or it will be a waste of time and money. But you can hire someone who does Facebook ads well. Promote lead magnets to build your email subscriptions through Facebook ads. You may also use Twitter ads through lead generation cards to drive new email subscriptions. Or use Outbrain and Taboola to use paid content promotion. Get on podcasts.

  1. Promote content through pre-outreach.

Build up the anticipation for a post you’re about to publish and make your content more epic than your competitor’s content including content upgrades and embedding those inside your post. Once you’ve clicked a link on your post, you can opt-in to your email list.

  1. Optimize your post for SEO.

This may take a while for you to get any return from this. Read blogs like Backlinko and Quick Sprout for advice on SEO optimization. Install the WordPress SEO plugin.

  1. Make sure the questions you’re answering in your posts are very specific.

Make sure it’s one question per post and really hit on the desires, needs, and wants of your audience. Make sure it demonstrates that you understand the language of your audience.

  1. Get good at copywriting.

Avoid using corporate jargons. You should be writing posts that feel like you’re talking directly to someone.

  1. Use giveaways to increase opt-ins to your mailing list.

Focus on your list growth. Learn from Bryan Harris of Videofruit who has great ideas for list building.

  1. Build a list and start getting opt-ins to your blog right off the bat.

Make sure you have a welcome gate on your blog that captures opt-ins. Make sure everything is focused on opt-ins and you have a sales funnel.

Strategies to make your posts more interesting:

  1. Leverage YouTube videos.

Blogs like Social Triggers and Marie Forleo publish a lot of video content that drive a fair amount of traffic.

  1. Infographics

These are effective but expensive. Invest in designers to make infographics for your blog as they tend to lead to more opt-ins and better content quality.

  1. Interactive content

Create many different forms such as an in-post interactive list such as Backlinko (Brian Dean’s blog) where he has SEO tool reviews which you can click and review interactively. Another example is a quiz or assessment by Social Triggers blog that funnel Facebook ad visitors to a sidebar opt-in.

  1. Slider calculators.

These demonstrate the value or investment of what you’re trying to convey to your audience. You can use this on sales pages and regular blog posts.

Tools to make images more captivating:



Cody’s Major Takeaway:

Don’t write off guest blogging because it’s how you’re going to build the high domain authority backlinks for your blog which is essential when starting a blog and for getting your content to rank on Google eventually. It’s a slow process but don’t overlook it. Reach out and get acceptance from other bloggers when they see you’re on authority and you’re published on top blogs.

Episode Resources:

Learn more about Cody via email or visit his website at and download a free guest blogging guide at

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TSE 096: Things You Must Do To Protect Yourself When Selling Online!

Online Selling, DMCA, digital millennium copyright act, Kendra StephensContent, content, content – there’s a lot of talk about that. You need to post photos, videos, and other visuals to build your online presence. So you decided to post something on your website and use a photo that you got from one of your Google searches. And voila! The next thing you know you receive a love letter from a lawyer, demanding for payment otherwise you’ll get sued. How do you handle that?  Sadly, deleting the photo won’t fix it. Now you end up paying thousands of dollars for one picture.

One simple mistake can cost you ruining a business which you’ve worked hard for. So two words here – Due diligence.

There is a lot of ignorance about the legal side of online selling. Whether you’re a professional seller or you’re selling as an entrepreneur, you need to set the rules first before you play the game. Keeping informed is key.

That’s why I brought Kendra Stephen to the show so you would know what your rights are as a website owner and how to protect yourself, your business and your clients.

Kendra Stephen is a lawyer that understands online business. With 10 years of working with online marketing business website, Kendra helps people grow their business online while providing them with relevant legal resources and assistance.

Here are the highlights of my conversation with Kendra:

You don’t have to be online for your business to be online.

What people need to focus on:

  • Growing their business.
  • Controlling what’s out there about their business.

Key things you need to be aware of when you’re playing in the online space:

Important areas on the website commonly overlooked:

  • Terms of Use – the specifics for your business.
  • Privacy Policy – you cannot skip this!
  • Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) – allows the website owner to have protection.

DMCA requirements people forget about:


Copyright Infringement, defined: Taking someone’s original work (photo, video, writing) and posting it on your website without their permission.

Make sure the content of your website is not infringing on someone else’s copyrights. (Regardless of who posted it, whether your designer or virtual assistant, you will be held liable.)

3 categories photos usually fall under:

Keep track of a list of the photos you use on your website. Keep a record of your content.

Licensing content:

If you need to use someone else’s information, get their permission in writing.

If you’re paying someone to write for your website, keep a record of the agreement you have with them. For example:

  • What content they’re going to write.
  • Who owns the content once they write and produce it.


Most recently, they opened the world of domain names thereby also opening the door to more domain name disputes. Often times, people register the domain name not realizing that it’s someone’s trademark name.

Be careful when you’re registering your domain name that you don’t infringe on the trademark. When registering a domain name, make sure you do a trademark search.

Before you register your domain name, go to the United States Patent and Trademark Office website and search. But, things can get complicated. Better yet, speak with an attorney that does trademark searches. With one click, they can search everything. It may cost you money to have an attorney search the name for you but definitely less headache than you ending up being sued.

Is your podcast protected?

The moment you created the podcast, it’s protected by copyright law. If you did register it and someone decides to post it elsewhere without your permission, the statutory damages for copyright infringement can cost up to $150,000!

Rebroadcasting your podcast

Be careful with your agreements otherwise you could be signing over your copyrights to the company. Be careful about what you’re signing.

When you’re hiring a designer, make sure the designer hands over the rights to it.

Connect with Kendra via email and visit their website

Or tweet her @KendraStephen

Kendra’s Major Takeaways:

“Create your own content. It is so easy to copy and paste from someone else’s website and you don’t want to do that. If you must use someone else’s information, get their permission in writing.”